In this special members-only episode, we watch and discuss "Her" (2013).

Apple's chip-fab options, branding the 20th-anniversary iPhone, Terminal and Xcode preferences, and some very special filenames.

• Pre-show:
  • Project Hail Mary
  • Reconcilable Differences #286: Ain’t Nothin’ Gonna Break My Stride
  • Setlist
  • Bandcamp
  • Luke Bloom — Bad
  • D. H. T. — Listen to Your Heart
  • Apocalyptica
  • Vitamin String Quartet
  • Johnny Cash — Hurt
• Follow-up:
  • CapEx vs. OpEx (via Andrew Leahey)
    • Bloomberg
  • “Hot lot” (via Anonymous & Matt Jones)
  • Ultra/Neo/etc
    • Is the “iPhone Ultra” the 20th anniversary iPhone? (via Janne Ojaniemi)
    • Did we forget about “Studio”? (via Karan J)
    • What’s the ∆ between an iMac Neo and a Studio Display? (via Zoran Nešić)
  • Time Machine
    • …with lots of small files (via Jon Wilson & Andrew Hathaway)
      • Asimov
    • …with spinning disks (via Ben Mattison & Carlos Pereira)
    • …period (via David Fokkema)
      • lsof
• Apple agrees to pay iPhone owners $250M for fumbling AI Siri
• Apple is flirting with Intel and Samsung
  • Apple’s Newsroom post about US manufacturing
  • Apple and Intel have reached an agreement? (Apple News+ link)
• Ask ATP:
  • How do we actually move files around our Macs? (via Brandon Whichard)
    • Yoink
    • MD5
  • Do we use a profile/theme for Terminal windows? (via Chris Harper)
    • Prompt 3
  • Do we use any other IDEs? (also via Chris Harper)
    
    • LSP
    • Intelephense
• Post-show: .nofollow
  • Apple developer forum post
  • Symlink
  • .nosync, .noindex, .nobackup
  • Hopper
  • MJ Tsai
  • Apple open-source
  • Swift SE-0529: Add FilePath to the Standard Library
  • Safe Path Handling: Why Secure Filesystem Operations Are Harder Than You Think
• Members-only ATP Overtime: Non-developers building apps
  • Ben Dansby

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How could Apple make Neo and Ultra versions of more of their products?

• Pre-show: Two thirds of your hosts are sick 🤧
• Follow-up:
  • Backblaze & cloud backups
    • Carbon Copy Cloner & Backblaze (via Barry Rubenstein)
      • Support document
    • Maestral
    • Arq’s approach (via Daniel Luz)
  • Neo-ing… other things
  • Mythos
    • What makes this different (via William Moran)
    • GPT-5.5 is equivalent?
    • cURL security/bug reports
  • Severe Linux security issue uncovered using AI
  • AI is still ruining everything
    • See also: MacBook Neo
    • More from Tim Culpan
    • Paul Haddad’s toot showing $25K-$35K Mac Studios for sale on eBay
  • An examination of Apple’s CapEx
    • Apple’s R&D spending hits new record
    • SG&A
    • MG Siegler’s take
      • Project Titan died in Febraury 2024
• Ultra all the things
  • iPhone Ultra
  • MacBook Ultra
  • AirPods Ultra
  • iPad Ultra
  • Apple Watch Ultra 4
  • Mac Ultra
  • iMac Ultra
• Ask ATP:
  • What size drive should one get for Time Machine? (via Pat Murphy)
• Post-show: Marco’s Great Saunter
  • Ashokan Rail Trail
  • Saunter Map App
  • Pedometer++
  • Suunto Race S Titanium
  • Barkley Marathons
    • Documentary trailer
• Members-only ATP Overtime: Adobe has also forgotten how to make good software
  • Jason’s take
  • Foster Brereton
    • somebehemoth
    • Neywiny

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Mythos, the different personalities of Tim Cook and John Ternus, the complexity of backing up files from cloud storage providers on macOS, and the long-term future of the Mac.

• Pre-show: Mythos
  • Anthropic’s blog post
• Follow-up:
  • ATP Store
    • Yes, it happened again.
    • The ATP Neo Silver made it!
  • UPenn is an Ivy
    • Kieran Healy’s story
    • Marina Epelman’s thought
      • US News & World Report 2026 Best Engineering Schools
  • Gurman’s transition coverage
    • Tim Cook’s remarks to employees
    • Comparison between Cook & Ternus
  • The Ability to be Hotter
    • New material proves to be more heat conductive
• Backblaze is no longer backing up cloud storage
  • Backblaze Mac Release Notes for version 9.2.2.878
  • Backblaze Windows Release Notes for version 9.2.2.877
  • Response on Reddit
    • Reparse point
    • Additional response on Reddit
  • Backblaze blog post
  • MJ Tsai roundup
  • Alternatives:
    • Arq
    • Parachute for iCloud
• Ask ATP:
  • What generation is John’s Accord? What’s the plan for replacement? (via Brian Ashe)
    • ATP Neutral: Car Shopping
    • 2014 Honda Accord
  • Which Apple CEO will 💩-can the Mac? (via Jason)
  • How often should Macs be restarted? (via Paul Franz)
    • Bug report
    • Gruber’s take
• Post-show: Pedometer++ version 8.0
  • Underscore’s blog post
  • Stephen’s blog post
  • Six Years Perfecting Maps on watchOS
• Members-only ATP Overtime: Should Apple MacBook Neo all the things?
  • MaxTech’s musing

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John Ternus was announced as Apple’s next CEO! We review the strengths and weaknesses of the Tim Cook era as he transitions to Executive Chairman.

• 🗣️ ATP STORE IS LIVE! 🗣️
• Follow-up:
  • GL.iNet KVM security issues?
    • Mark Wadham’s write-up
    • Dan Godin at Ars Technica
  • MacBook Neo cores 🤝 BMW heated seats? (via Edward Munn)
  • Joe Lion waxes poetic about RAM on Apple Silicon
  • More component delays
• It’s Ternus time
  • Fashion
    • Cook’s shoes
    • Ternus’s Shirt
    • Cook’s Shirt
  • Johny Srouji named Chief Hardware Officer
  • Tim’s letter
  • New York Times coverage
  • Marco’s blog post
• Post-show: John quizzes Marco & Casey
  • Apple: The First 50 Years by David Pogue
  • Infinite Loop by Michael S. Malone
  • Revolution in the Valley
    
    • folklore.org
  • Jason’s recommendations
• Members-only ATP Overtime: Media consumption & the limits of human perception
  • Stephen Robles’ $3,000 video box
    • Kaleidescape Strato
  • MakeMKV
  • Tom’s Hardware: Audiophiles are full of 💩
    • Original post
  • One Man’s Dream (Callsheet link)
    • RIP, Ken Fritz

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Ads in Apple Maps, copyright of AI output, and a short supply of flawed chips.

• Pre-show: Casey requests an app from Marco
  • Roon
  • Nugs
• 🗣️ ATP STORE IS LIVE! 🗣️
• 🗣️ New ATP Member Special: ATP Dev: Nuggets of Wisdom
• Follow-up:
  • Suunto is… not young (via Henri Sivonen)
    • Garmin did beat Suunto to GPS watch though
  • The other neat explainer John was thinking of (via Ben Landsberg)
    • Previously:
      • Eric Portis on Color Spaces
      • Bartosz Ciechanowski on… anything
  • Is Apple running out of A18 Pros‽ 😱
  • Apple IDs & passkeys (via Vitor)
    • Others with this issue
    • Apple said it’d be fixed… two years ago
  • Stealing TV… may not be so wise. Shocker! (via Nye Hughes)
    • See also:
      • Krebs on Security
      • Darknet Diaries (via David Brownman)
• Ads are coming to Apple Maps
  • Newsroom
• AI-generated code & copyright
  • AI-generated art can’t be copyrighted
  • Can coding agents “relicense” through clean-room re-implementation?
    • No right to relicense this project
  • Monkey selfie
  • Claude, rewrite yourself
• Ask ATP:
  • When Marco goes on a saunter with two watches, are the measurements similar? (via Jason)
  • Why did Marco bother with colocation? (via Stephen Gozza)
• Post-show: Casey’s silly new toy
  • Alex’s overview
  • Screenshot of a Linux machine
  • Screenshot of a Mac
• Members-only ATP Overtime: John tries to reach acceptance
  • Apple approves AMD & Nvidia eGPU drivers
  • What if Apple adopted “MPX”-style modules? (via Jan Wedekind)
    • MK1 High Density Rack Mount
  • Bandwidth comparisons
    • Thunderbolt 5
      • 80 Gbit/s symmetric
      • 120 Gbit/s unidirectional for displays
    • SSD (M5 Max MacBook pro, 4 TB)
      • 109 Gbit/s (13.6 GB/s) read
      • 142 Gbit/s (17.8 GB/s) write
    • PCIe speeds on PCIe 5.0
      • 1 lane: 32 Gbit/s (4 GB/s)
      • 16 lanes: 512 Gbit/s (64 GB/s)
      • …as compared to the Mac Pro’s 64 lanes across 4 slots (2,048 GBit/s)
        • 17× Thunderbolt 5’s maximum single-direction speed
  • Internal vs. external SSD
    • 2025 Mac Studio: ~5.5 GB/s
    • OWC Envoy Ultra: ~5.1 GB/s; 8 TB for $2,250
    • OWC Thunderblade: ~5.75 GB/s; 8 TB for $2,700
    • PolySoft third-party internal SSDs
      • Kickstarter (ended November 2024)

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Lessons of various sizes that we’ve learned as software developers.

John’s next Mac is going to be very expensive.

• Pre-show: The new Ceramic Shield 2 in the iPhone 17 Pro is the real deal
  • UniFi Travel Router
  • Cascades trail
  • Shenandoah National Park
• 🗣️ ATP STORE IS LIVE! 🗣️
• Follow-up:
  • Studio Display XDR price drop‽ 😱
    • Stephen Robles
      • 1
      • 2
    • Casey’s snarky toot
    • Tangentially related: John’s Google One price drop
  • John’s upgrade cycle (via Ryan Himmelwright)
  • How much hotter can a Mac get?
    • Mac Studio power consumption
    • Mac Pro power consumption
  • Apple’s implementation of Passkeys (via Ben Frearson)
  • Apple subsidiary fined over $500k for breaching Russian sanctions
  • RetinaDisplays.com
  • CIE 1931 & Apple’s 2026 CMFs
    • They’re more than just a monitor calibration standard (via Eric Portis)
    • The GOAT, Bartosz Ciechanowski
      • Mechanical Watch
    • CIE updates from 2015
    • On Apple’s CMF
  • Long Island and “mainland”
    • United States v. Maine (via Craig Bowers)
• The Greatest Podcast Ad Campaign of All Time
  • Overcast link
  • Every other podcast app
  • Casey’s write-up
• Marco’s letter to John Ternus
  • A Tale of Two Letters
• Ask ATP:
  • How does Apple Silicon RAM work, anyway? (via Johnny “Decimal” Noble)
• Post-show: Marco Garmin-watch update
  • Suunto Race S Titanium (Amazon)
  • Garmin Venu 4
  • Garmin Forerunner 970
  • Garmin Fenix 8 Pro MicroLED
• Members-only ATP Overtime: The Claude Code leak & how Claude “actually works”
  • Regex to detect user anger
  • “Undercover mode” (via Aral Balkan)
  • Future plans

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Farewell, Mac Pro.

• Pre-show:
  • Happy independence day, John!
  • The Great Saunter
    • Pedometer++
  • The AI Doc: Or How I Became an Apocaloptimist
• 🗣️ New ATP Member Special: ATP Tier List: Home Screen Icons
  • More about the flag
• Follow-up:
  • Overcast transcripts
    • Missed Apex
  • MacBook Neo
    • Tim Cook on the MacBook Neo launch
    • New Ice Book? (via Adrian Bengtson)
      • iBook “Snow”
    • Teardown by Framework founder Nirav Patel
      • Framework
    • MacBook Neo vs. Chromebooks
      • “NFW”, says Henry
      • “This could be a breath of fresh air”, says Ari
  • “Medium” Core and M5 Pro/Max information from Apple
    • Chance Miller at 9to5 Mac
      • Original article 🇩🇪
    • PCI Express
  • Ubiquiti
    • What about site-to-site VPN for Marco?
      • UniFi Travel Router
    • “Not so fast, my friend” re: Wi-Fi 7 MLO
      • YouTube announcement
      • Blog post
    • Some shadiness from January
• 🪦 RIP, Mac Pro 🪦
  • Thoroughly Considered #123: The Last Detail with John Siracusa
  • CUDA
• Ask ATP:
  • Are we running any iOS apps in macOS? (via Alex Kent)
  • How would we balance new shiny vs. familiarity? (via Michael Brescher Jr.)
• Post-show: John and Marco bicker about islands
  • Merriam-Webster’s definition of “mainland”
• Members-only ATP Overtime: 🥚 Update
  • 10 February: Delayed to 2027
  • 20 February: Smart speaker with a camera?
    • The Information

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Ranking the app icons on our iPhone home screens, including built-in Apple apps, third-party apps, and — somewhat awkwardly — even our own.

WWDC 2026 hopes, the state of passkeys, more on podcast transcripts, and how businesses manage fleets of Macs.

• Follow-up:
  • Overcast & Transcriptions
    • Marco had never seen inside a datacenter
    • What about podcasts that include their own transcripts (via Matt King)
      • Apple Podcasts transcript options
      • <podcast:transcript> tag
      • MP3 ID3 “SYLT” tag
    • What is Marco using for a job queue? Perhaps Faktory? (via Drew Stephenson)
      • beanstalkd
      • Ansible
    • Monitoring & control interface
    • Imagine a Beowulf cluster of the minis… (via Aaron Dippner)
      • System X
      • RDMA over Thunderbolt was added in macOS 26.2
      • I Ran a Trillion Parameter AI on a Mac
      • Apple Didn’t Have to Go This Hard
      • Apple Insider
    • Mac fleet management advice
      • Apple Business
  • AirPods Max popularity in New York
• WWDC 2026 Announced
• Ask ATP
  • What’s the deal with passkeys, anyway? (via Phillip Miller)
    • XKCD
  • Does having an 8 GB RAM computer keep macOS lean? (via Jon Fabritius)
  • Will we get an iPhone or iPad Pro that will use macOS when connected to a display? (via Keith Heaton)
    • Michael Cook’s contrary opinion
• Post-show: Casey is continuing to quiet quit his Synology
  • DS1621+
  • Ubiquiti UNAS Pro
  • Casey’s NUC
  • Channels
  • Proxmox
  • Tailscale on YouTube
  • Derek Seaman’s Tech Blog (the extremely helpful listener 🥰)
  • ESPHome
  • Syncthing & rclone
  • Proxmox Backup Server
  • Transmit
  • Forklift
• Members-only ATP Overtime: How Apple will add touch support to macOS

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MacBook Neo hands-on, Studio Display XDR eyes-on, and how Overcast is transcribing podcasts at scale.

• Follow-up:
  • You’re welcome, world
  • Formula 1
    • A brief, renewed pitch to watch this season
    • Cameras
      • Are not a large portion of the coverage (via Matt Rigby)
      • Failures don’t [usually] matter (via The Racing Line)
        • Great camera overview video
    • The other perk of in-car footage (via Eric Fox)
    • On getting Sky Sports replays (via Brendan Webb)
  • Rosetta
    • A deep dive from Colin McKellar
    • Instant Final Cut Pro deprecation warning (via Tom Obarski)
  • iPhone 17e teardown
  • MacBook Neo
    • Gruber on the camera & mic on-screen indicators
      • Apple Platform Security Guide
      • On Apple Exclaves (Medium link)
    • CPU benchmark correction (via Philipp Sommer)
    • SSD benchmarks (via Vito Traino)
      • Andrew Marc David’s review
      • M1 MacBook Air benchmarks
      • General Apple Silicon benchmarks
        • AmorphousDiskMark
        • MacBook SSD benchmarks
    • John’s and Marco’s hands-on impressions
    • Teardowns
      • Tech Re-Nu
      • iFixIt
        • Video
        • Blog post
• AirPods Max 2
  • Newsroom
  • John wins the bet (Overcast timestamp link)
  • Apple’s compare page
• Overcast beta now has transcripts!
  • Mac Mini Vault
  • Green Mini Host
  • FileVault over SSH
  • launchd
  • XPC
• Post-show Neutral: BMW i3 Revealed
  • The Verge
  • Ars Technica
• Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple’s 27 OSes and Liquid Glass
  • Gurman on 15 February
  • Gurman on 15 March

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MacBook Neo details, Studio Display XDR tech and impressions, Marco tries a Garmin, and Casey tries to watch F1.

• Pre-show: Casey brings us back to Anniversary Corner
  • Related episode of ATP
• Follow-up:
  • An explanation for John’s post that broke containment (via Thomas Dickson)
  • MacBook Neo
    • John’s theory about color & clamshells
    • The M1 MacBook Air was American Walmarts only. (via Pierre-Luc Gagné)
      • Aside also via P-L: does the Neo run Rosetta 2?
    • MacBook Neo inputs 🤝 iPad Air inputs (via Andrew Larson)
    • SSD speeds (via The Verge)
    • The  logo
      • iPhone 5 intro video is what John was thinking of (via Peter Puleio)
      • Jason’s review
    • Dave2D’s review
    • Teardown
    • Tyler Stalman on the Neo running “pro” apps
  • Performance Cores vs. Super Cores
    • New in Xcode 24.6β3: CPUFAMILY_ARM_SOTRA (H17S) (via Brendan Shanks)
      • H17S is the missing M5 Pro identifier from iOS 26.3 RC
    • Quinn’s review
      • M5 Pro & Max are on N3P; M5 is N3E
      • Baidu leakers
        • Super cores (“P-Core”)
          • 4.61 GHz
          • 10-wide decoding
        • Performance cores (“M-Core”)
          • 4.38 GHz
          • 7-wide decoding
          • ~70% the performance of a Super Core
          • Dual operating mode from efficiency cores
        • Efficiency cores (“E-Core”)
          • 3.05 GHz
          • 6-wide decoding
    • Andrew Cunningham at Ars
      • L2 cache
        • Super: 16 MB
        • Performance: 8 MB
        • Efficiency: 6MB
      • Minimum clock speed:
        • Super: 1,308 MHz
        • Performance: 1,344 MHz
        • Efficiency: 972 MHz
    • Fusion architecture (via Frederic_Orange)
  • MacBook Pro Storage pricing (via Richard Allen)
  • MacBook keyboard glyphs (via Dan Moren)
  • Environmental progress (via Andrew Leahey)
    • TOSTracker
    • Example individual comparison
  • Third-party displays (via Dan Boyle)
  • Pro Display XDR or Studio Display XDR? (asked by Imthaz)
  • Studio Display XDR
    • UFO Test
    • MKBHD’s review states it has 12 GB RAM 🤭
    • Studio Display XDR white paper (PDF) (via Kevin Sliech)
      • Superwide viewing angle
      • Timing controller (TCON)
      • Calibration
      • Display optimization modes
• Formula 1 news
  • Drive to Survive (Apple TV link)
  • Dad jokey-est promo video (Also on YouTube)
  • 2026 season preview
  • F1TV vs. Apple TV
    • Link accounts
  • Romain Grosjean’s
• Samsung Galaxy S26 Privacy Display
  • MKBHD
  • The Verge
• Post-show: Marco’s Garmin adventures
  • Great Saunter
  • Injinji toe socks
  • Altra Torin 8 wide shoes
  • Garmin Venu 4 41mm
  • Garmin Forerunner 570
  • Garmin Fenix 8
  • Suunto Race S
  • WorkOutDoors
  • Pedometer++
• Members-only ATP Overtime: The future of x86_64 on macOS
  • Tahoe 26.4 warnings
  • Slightly more detail from Ars Technica

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The MacBook Neo, M5 MacBook Air, M4 iPad Air, MacBook Pro with M5 Pro and M5 Max, the new Studio Display XDR, and the “new” Studio Display.

• Pre-show: The best (but slowest) website on the internet
  • Million Dollar Homepage
  • 2013 BMW M5 (PDF)
  • 2014 Honda Accord (PDF)
• M4 iPad Air
• iPhone 17e
• New displays (‼️)
  • Studio Display 2
    • A19 per MacRumors
    • Some excellent throwback snark from Jack Wellborn
  • Studio Display XDR
    • Day-one software update
    • Mac support
      • 120Hz-worthy Macs
• M5 MacBook Air
  • No change in RAM upgrade pricing?
• M5 Pro & M5 Max
  • Efficiency cores still exist
• M5 Pro & M5 Max MacBook Pros
  • If you squint, a 64GB MBP got cheaper
• MacBook Neo
  • Name leak
  • Prior art
  • Jason’s review & charts
  • No indicator light
  • Jason’s observation about the Apple logo
  • Announcement video
• Post-show: John had a post break containment
  • Context collapse
• Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple’s video podcast experience
  • HLS
  • Dan Moren notes prior art
  • Not based on RSS, laments Manton Reece
  • Stephen Robles’ video

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Our home screens, desktop audio setups, document-saving models, what we hope to “experience” next week, and where not to aim snow.

• Pre-show: Marco’s Watch and snow blows woes
  • TruFuel
• Follow-up:
  • Casey got the CableCARD email 😭
  • YoLink alternatives (via Joe)
    • IKEA Matter-over-Thread announcement
    • KLIPPBOK (leak sensor)
    • BILRESA (remote control)
    • MYGGSPRAY (motion sensor)
  • House batteries & V2H/V2L (via Russel Prouse)
    • F-150 Lightning
  • On the value of M𝑥 Pro processors (via Rick Baumhauer)
  • Tahoe window resizing workaround (via Nathan Manceaux-Panot)
    • defaults write -g AppleEdgeResizeExteriorSize 8
    • defaults delete -g AppleEdgeResizeExteriorSize
  • macOS document model
    • …was actually introduced in Mac OS X 10.7
    • …and noted in the beginning of the Mac OS X 10.8 review
    • Final Cut Pro X does auto-save (via Ian Robinson)
      • Technical details (via Videoalex)
    • Microsoft Office 365 also auto-saves onto OneDrive in Windows (via Éric)
    • Saving files in Xcode (via Alex Kent)
    • Returning to Save As… (via Eric deRuiter)
      • System Settings
        • Desktop & Dock → disable Close windows when quitting an application
        • Keyboard → Keyboard Shortcuts create an entry under All Applications for Save As… (using an ellipsis by typing ⌥ ;) and assign it to ⌘⇧S
    • Notepad++ (via Emily Campbell)
  • Alternative to Due (via Patrick Dumontel)
    • GoodTask
• Apple March 4 “experience”
  • MacRumors’ roundup of low-cost MacBook limitations
• Apple to manufacture some Mac minis in the US
  • Wall Street Journal video
  • Accompanying article
    • Apple News link
  • This predates this administration?
• Ask ATP:
  • What are our current home & lock screens? (via Sagar Patel)
    • ATP Insider: Roast My Home Screen
    • John: lock & home
    • Casey: lock & home
      • Indigo
      • Croissant
    • Marco: lock & home
  • What’s our current desktop headphone setup? (via ziplyne)
    • Overtime on ATP #675
    • Casey
      • AirPods Pro 3
      • Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro 32Ω
      • Desktop speakers
        • Sonos Era 100 × 2
        • Sonos Sub Mini
        • Sonos Combo Adapter
    • John:
      • Sony MDR-7506
      • Kanto ORA4
      • ATP #630
    • Marco:
      • Podcasting
        • Beyerdynamic DT775 Pro 250Ω
        • Beyerdynamic EDT1770D Earpads
        • Schiit Jotunheim 2 (an older model; current is Jotunheim 3)
      • Music
        • HifiMan HE6
      • Speakers
        • KEF Q150 / LSX II & KC62
        • Amp for Q150: Fosi Audio BT30D
• Post-show: Casey’s driven more cars
  • BMW i4 M50
  • Audi e-tron GT
• Members-only ATP Overtime: Skill shortages, Apple Silicon, and AI
  • Empowering the Next Wave of Silicon Engineers
  • Gell-Mann amnesia effect

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Solar and batteries vs. generators, news about Perl (?!), hiding apps as a self-improvement tool, and the age-old debate of "Save As…" vs. "Duplicate", which we basically only see in Preview now.

• Pre-show:
  • Marco beach… and app… cleanup results
    • Instagram reel that John found
    • Due
    • YoLink Water Leak Starter Kit
  • We’re recording ✨from the future✨.
• Follow-up:
  • Should Casey look at a used Lucid Air for ~$50k?
  • Marco’s defection move to Chrome (via Sarvagnan)
    • Helium Browser
    • unduck.link
  • Window resizing in Tahoe (via Jeff Johnson)
    • “Resolved Issue” → “Known Issue”
      • Objective Development
      • LaunchBar
      • Little Snitch
  • AirTag 2 & speaker tampering
  • Cloudflare Open Access (via George Black)
    • Explanatory video
  • Fastmail 🤝🏻 Perl
    • Fastmail’s donation
    • John’s referral link
  • Another Apple purchase migration warning (via Nick)
    • Support document
• YouTube is on visionOS (App Store link)
• Studio Display 2 to be… 90Hz? 🤨
• New devices not on the latest-and-greatest TSMC process?
• Where are you, M5 Pro MacBook Pro?
  • Juli Clover at MacRumors
  • Ben Lovejoy at 9to5 Mac
  • Ben in December 2024
  • Vadim Yuryev (of MaxTech)
• Ask ATP:
  • What kind of battery backup should one use? (via Allen Shull)
    • Casey’s “tailgate battery”
    • Casey’s “bequeathed” generator
    • Tesla Powerwall
  • Why do we think Ternus is a good idea as CEO? (via Kevin B.)
  • What’s the deal with Save As…, Duplicate, etc? (via Carl Walther)
    • The new document model was actually introduced in Mac OS X 10.7 Lion in 2011
    • More from John’s Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion review in in 2012
• Post-show: Casey’s Status Board
• Members-only ATP Overtime: Apparently everyone is stealing TV
  • ReplayTV

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More on the impact of AI coding, and the Jony Ive-designed Ferrari interior.

• Pre-show: Marco HVAC update
  • Daikin
  • Trane
  • YoLink temperature sensors (or this one with a wider temp. range)
  • YoLink leak sensors
  • LoRa
• 🗣️ New ATP Member’s Special: ATP Insider: After Apple
• Follow-up:
  • Units corner
    • Robert Tait’s video
  • WarGames display reincarnated (via everyone)
    • ATP Movie Club: WarGames
    • WarGames
  • AI
    • Whoops, we whiffed on disclosing past/future sponsors 🤦🏻‍♂️
    • Steve Troughton-Smith’s experimentations
      • Three apps in one day
      • On usage limits
    • Dread & fatalism
      • We Mourn Our Craft by Nolan Lawson
      • The Tipping Point by Thomas Ricouard (Medium link 🤢)
    • Productivity promise vs. reality
      • Anthropic study
      • Experienced developers are slower?
      • Microsoft study
      • Atlassian study
      • Berkeley: AI adoption ≠ productivity gains
      • Harvard: Slop hinders productivity
      • MIT: 95% of businesses see zero returns (PDF)
    • Breaking the Spell of Vibe Coding by Rachel Thomas
    • AI-Generated Code Quality by Mark Levison
    • Comprehension Debt by Aman Shekhar
    • Your Brain on ChatGPT by Nataliya Kosmyna et al
  • Some related links from our AI conversation:
    • n8n
    • Stratechery interview with Benedict Evans
    • Computer (occupation)
    • Memento mori
  • Steam Machine & Steam Frame delayed due to component shortages/price increases
• Ferrari Luce
  • Andrew J. Hawkins at The Verge
  • Walkthrough video with Jordan Golon at PRNDL
    • Associated post
  • Dieter Rams
  • Patek Philippe Nautilus
  • Braun
  • Gordon Murray Automotive Type 50
    • Shift knob & switchgear (timestamp link to 18:04)
    • Other videos
  • Leica
• Post-show: Casey is car shopping
  • Porsche Taycan
  • Audi e-tron GT
  • BMW i4
  • Rivian R3
  • How the second-gen Porsche Taycan is better than the first-gen
• Members-only ATP Overtime: China’s ban on electric door handles
  • Tesla hit with another wrongful death suit by Andrew J. Hawkins
  • Flush door handles & efficiency by Jonathan M. Gitlin

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What would have happened if Apple never existed? What if they stop existing? Which platforms and products would we use?

If you really don’t like AI, we have some bad news for you.

• Pre-show: Icepocalypse update
• Follow-up:
  • Casey’s unit conversions are helpful… ish
  • Other authentication options for John’s Cloudflare apps
    • Cloudflare Access
      • Zero trust architecture
    • OpenID connect
      • tsidp
      • Pocket ID
  • Per-pixel lighting and human perception (via David Schaub)
  • The state of MicroLED
    • Robert Tait of The Hook Up
  • Claude Code & AI ethics
    • Alec’s video
    • Irish wind farm
• Top Dogs in Apple Vision Pro
• Marco’s experiment
  • Cortex
  • DuckDuckGo
  • Kagi
• Apple adds agentic coding to Xcode 26.3
  • John’s Tahoe icon battle continues
    • Rubber duck debugging
  • Kyle Hughes
  • Drop shipping
• Post-show: Tesla kills off the Model S and Model X
  • Most recent earnings
  • Earnings call transcript
  • The Robotaxi is dangerous according to… Tesla
  • We really need to get to self-driving
  • Waymo’s safety record
• Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple’s rumored AI pin
  • Apple buys Q.ai
  • Ryan Christoffel

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TCL and Sony TVs, Apple and Google's AI infrastructure, new AirTags, John Ternus overseeing design, and more adventures with Claude Code.

• Pre-show: Snowpocalypse update
• Follow-up:
  • atp.fm passkey update
  • Google Private AI Compute
  • Apple 🤝🏻 Google Cloud
  • Removing copy/paste crud (via rauli)
  • Screen on RAM
  • ASUS improves color accuracy for Mac users (via Oliver Thomas)
  • Modular headphones
    • AIAIAI (via Graham Dobie)
    • Tyler H’s review of the Fender Mix and Fairphone Fairbuds
  • Window management in macOS (via Ben)
    • FlashSpace
    • AltTab
• New AirTags
  • The chime has changed from F → G
• Apple hosting LA event
  • Invite image
  • Jason’s Creator Studio review
• TCL has bought Sony’s TV business
  • TCL Super Quantum Dot
  • TCL X11L
• John Ternus takes over design at Apple
  • Sebastiaan de With → Apple
  • Who makes design decisions at Apple, anyway?
• Post-show:
  • We stand with Minnesotans.
    • Apple employee reaction to Tim Cook
    • Tim’s internal memo
    • Tim’s letter after George Floyd
    • Gruber on Tim’s letter
    • Gruber on language
    • CRDT
  • John’s new bff
    • XKCD #974: Pass the salt
• Members-only ATP Overtime: TikTok in the US is under new ownership… for real this time
  • Congress is unsure if it complies with law
  • Are content moderation changes afoot?
  • More data slurping definitely is

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Thoughts on Tahoe.

• Pre-show: Snowpocalypse is coming for Casey
• 🗣️ New ATP Member’s Special: ATP Tier List: Automotive Logos 🗣️
• Follow-up:
  • We’ll talk TCL/Sony next week!
    • Gruber’s post
  • Top Dogs is coming
  • “Cloud technology”?
    • Google’s blog post
    • Gurman’s post
  • Clipboard hijacking
    • It’s an Apple thing
    • No, really
  • Indonesia is not small
  • MainStage is not new (via Mike Taffet et al)
    • Interview
  • Apple’s Pro Apps Bundle still exists for education users (via Pekka Salonen)
  • Pro apps free trials
    • Prior art (via Karoline)
    • The trials are full versions (via Ian Robinson)
  • Monitors at CES
    • DisplayPort alternate mode for USB-C
    • What about color accuracy?
      • Extended Display Identification Data
  • ProMotion in Safari
    • iOS: Settings → Apps → Safari → Advanced → Feature Flags
    • Test
  • Vision Pro does have Keynote
• Icons in Tahoe menus
  • Nikita Prokopov
  • Jim Nielsen
  • Colin M. Ford (and an explanation)
  • Apple’s guidelines
• You don’t have bad aim; it’s Tahoe
• How to prevent Tahoe update nags
  • Many Tricks
  • Device management profiles
  • Actually it’s a bug 🤭
• Ask ATP:
  • Was Alan Dye a better or worse steward of software design than Jony Ive? (via Austin)
  • Will Alan Dye’s departure affect a touchscreen MacBook Pro? (via Tom Armstrong)
  • What is our favorite macOS style? (via Nate)
    • macOS Screenshot Library
• Post-show: John’s migration continues
  • John’s Fastmail referral link
  • Cron
  • Namecheap
  • Cloudflare
  • Claude Code
  • MiniDV
  • StatusBoard
  • Grafana
  • Prometheus
  • CandyBar
• Members-only ATP Overtime: Fender’s first wireless headphones
  • The Verge coverage
  • Demo video
  • Sony WH-1000XM6
  • Auracast
    • Wikipedia
  • Sony MDR-7506

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Somehow, we didn't want to murder each other this time.

Apple Creator Studio, the Gemini deal, the NBA on Vision Pro, and how Casey should spoil himself for his 50th birthday.

• Pre-show: Casey’s dreams were squashed
  • Ubiquiti Travel Router
  • Verizon Jetpack
  • Marco’s hotspot (newer models exist; check for refurbs, they’re way cheaper than new)
  • Solis Edge
• Follow-up:
  • The Grim Reaper FiOS CableCARD email came for John
    • TiVo Roamio Pro
    • Casey on Downstream
  • Temporal dithering (via Kyle Foreman)
  • Dagnabbit, the screen count is just too damn high
    • MSI MEG Vision X (Screen grab)
    • MSI Lightning RTX 5090 (Screen grab)
  • Wi-Fi channel selection & size
  • Wi-Fi 7 8
• A tour of Apple- (or John-) relevant monitors from CES
  • As a reminder…
    • Apple Studio Display
    • Pro Display HDR
  • MSI MPG 271KRAW16
  • DisplayHDR 1400 certification
  • MSI MAG 271KPD7
    • Monitors Unboxed
  • ASUS ROG Swift OLED PG27UCWM (Photo)
    • HDTVTest
  • Subpixel arrangements
• Apple Creator Studio
  • Icons over time
  • Photomator lives on… for now (via Chris Welch)
    • MacRumors
  • Apple’s defense of the icons
  • Jason on iWork freemium
• Apple 🤝🏻 Google
  • More from The Information
• Chase to become the new issuer of Apple Card
  • FAQ
  • Back story on the Wall Street Journal (Apple News)
• Post-show: NBA Immersive
  • Stratechery
  • Dithering
• Members-only ATP Overtime: The continuing disaster at Twitter
  • Elizabeth Lopatto: Tim Cook and Sundar Pichai are cowards
  • Dan Moren: Apple cowardly still has not pulled X and Grok from the App Store
  • Bloomburg: Musk’s Grok AI blocked in Indonesia, Malaysia over sexual images
  • Robert Hart & Jess Weatherbed: X hasn’t really stopped Grok AI from undressing women in the UK

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What we're most excited for in 2026.

• Pre-show: Casey has a question for Marco
  • LivePhish
  • Goose on Bandcamp
  • Nugs
• Thank you, ATP Patrons!
• Follow-up:
  • Cord-cutting
    • Casey on Downstream
    • suppose.tv
  • Multi-select in iOS Contacts.app (via many, including Simon Ljungberg)
  • The Studio Display is $1600 (via Greg Seay)
    • Quinn’s video on making a 5K display
  • Display flickering (via Stephen Perelson)
    • This started in late 2020 with Big Sur
    • Temporal dithering (AKA Frame rate control)
    • Stillcolor to disable temporal dithering on macOS
    • BetterDisplay for turning on and off GPU dithering
      • Docs
  • PlayStation Portal
    • …works with PlayStation Plus
    • …but really needs solid Wi-Fi
    • …and doesn’t support Wi-Fi 6
    • …and requires wired or first-party Bluetooth headphones
  • Double-tap title bar to Fill (via Chirag Desai)
    • Knowedge base
    • System Settings → Desktop & Dock → Window title bar double-click action → Fill
  • Wi-Fi 7
    • Ubiquiti’s Wi-Fi 7 implementation is not great (via Reid)
      • WPA3
    • WPA3 is not well supported (via USB Type-Steve)
    • Alternatively, try band steering (via Patch)
    • Wi-Fi Pro Abraham Vegh weighs in
    • …as does pro Saul Sutherland
    • John’s Eero Max 7 setup
  • Thread vs. Matter
    • Thread
    • Matter
    • Derek Seaman’s series
    • To run Matter in HA, you need a separate container
  • Apple Fitness+ and Quitter’s Day
    • Bodi
• ASML & TSMC
  • Extreme ultraviolet lithography
  • Veritasium: The Ridiculous Engineering of the World’s Most Important Machine
  • Asianometry: ASML: TSMC’s Critical Supplier, Explained
    • TSMC Analysis playlist
  • The Spectacular Failure of the Star Wars Hotel
• Tech stuff we’re looking forward to in 2026
  • Gartner hype cycle
  • The Trow of Disillusionment
• Post-show: Casey bought something silly
  • Quinn’s video
  • GL i.Net
  • /r/ubiquiti
  • Teleport
  • Extremely dodgy firmware upgrade approach
  • Portainer
• Members-only ATP Overtime: Strange form factor rumors for forthcoming iPhones
  • The Information
  • MacRumors
  • Mockup image & video
  • Jason’s & Stepen’s posts
  • iPhone fold display quietly debuted at CES?

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The truth about Wi-Fi 7, the DRAM shortage, the state of Thread and Matter, and two of the worst (or best?) proposals to improve macOS window management.

• Pre-show: Comply TrueGrip MAX for AirPods Pro 3
  • Pepperidge Farm Remembers
• Follow-up:
  • Contacts
    • Contact lists are a thing (via Dayton Lowell)
    • Some non-obvious complications (via Paul)
  • Face ID & Touch ID
    • Older folks really do struggle with Touch ID (via Harrison Krebs & Kurt Schwind)
    • Strictness (via Rob Sayre)
  • John’s Liquid Glass bug in macOS 26.2 (via Gui Rambo)
    • Gui’s PR
  • Some more about Podcasts.app and background execution (also from Gui)
    • FB17228659
    • Developer Technical Support
  • RAM shortage
    • Verge article
    • Micron’s forthcoming fabs
    • Hynix’s approach
      • …and forthcoming fabs
    • Samsung’s approach
    • Thru-Silicon
    • The Vergecast RAM Holiday Spec-tacular
  • Data portability
    • Git
      • Github will still sink its talons into you (via Simon Jodet)
      • Xcode 🤝 Git (via Tom Hartnett)
    • Android ↔ iOS
  • Display flicker in Tahoe
    • What does this even mean? (via Daniel)
    • One theory (via Sean Santry)
    • Some corroboration (via Philip Hofstetter)
• Wi-Fi 7 is a bust
  • -protonsandneutrons-
  • Playstation Portal
• Ask ATP:
  • What’s the difference between minimizing and hiding windows on macOS? (via Michael Krewson)
• Post-show: What the heck is the deal with Thread/Matter
  • Home Assistant
  • Nanoleaf Smart String Lights
  • Lutron Caséta (former sponsor)
  • YoLink
• Members-only ATP Overtime: iMac Pro… phoenix?
  • Previous code name discussion
  • Jason on Apple’s display strategy

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Celebrating the holidays with a festive deep dive on iPhone 18 and XX rumors!

• Pre-show: Christmas-slideshow time
• Follow-up:
  • Paris Buttfield-Addison’s locked Apple ID
    • 🇦🇺 ACCC: Consumer Rights & Guarnatees
    • 🇺🇸: Remember when we had a CFPB?
  • Chat math
  • Metadata thread splitting & merging
  • Colin spells it out for us
    • TV Everywhere
    • XMLTV
    • m3u8
    • IPTV Github Repo
    • 🚨 Proceed with caution 🚨 StreamEast
    • 506 Sports
  • Custom pronunciations in iOS
    • Accessibility → VoiceOver → Speech → Pronunciations
      • See Apple support
    • Accessibility → Read & Speak → Pronunciations
      • See Apple support
    • Apple video guide
  • Tahoe Studio Display flickering
  • Malicious content delivery in Apple Podcasts
    • Previously 1
    • Previously 2
• iPhone roadmap
  • Article on The Information
• iPhone XX rumor roundup
  • Under-screen FaceID?
  • Haptic buttons?
• Apple exploring touch-sensitive iPhone cases
  • Patent
• Ask ATP:
  • How do we manage our contacts? (via Tyler Kindy)
  • How do we use version control? (via Dmitry Myronenko)
• 🗣️ Remember, ATP gift memberships are a thing!
• Post-show: John’s bug
  • FB21375029
  • Sample project
• Members-only ATP Overtime: RAM shortage, or the flip-side of the Apple Intelligence RAM dividend
  • Sam Altman’s dirty DRAM deal
  • RAM is ruining everything
  • It-hurts-because-it’s-true wisecrack by ziplyne
  • The RAM shortage is here to stay
  • Chipwrecked

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We all just wish our families would be more impressed by our TVs.

• Pre-show: Marco joins team snow tires
  • i3: 155/70R19
  • XC90: 275/40R21
  • Molex
  • F-150 Lightning’s demise
• 🗣️ Remember, ATP gift memberships are a thing!
• 🗣️ New ATP Members Special: ATP Movie Club: WarGames
  • WarGames
• Follow-up:
  • Some impromptu spoiler-free follow-up about the member’s special
  • John’s Cloudflare update
    • Hypercritical
  • Marco’s former TV (via Wayne Morgan)
  • Apple executive departures
    • Jeff Williams has been nominated to join Disney’s board
      • Press release
      • The Verge
    • Would Johnny Srouji consider Rivian? What about NVIDIA?
  • Apple 2030 & carbon credits (via Zach)
  • Split iMessage groups (via sirshannon)
  • AI-generated voice-matched dubbing
    • Fran Besora tried the Spanish version
    • Stefanus Secundus tried the German version
    • Ben Mattison had an odd YouTube experience
  • Siri and pronunciations (via Paul Zadunajsky)
  • Intel stealing learning from chips it fabs
    • Thread by Joe Lion
      • VHDL
    • Jason Biatek points out this is all basically cryptography
      • Galois blog post
  • Migrate Purchases (via James Wilby)
• Paris Buttfield-Addison got locked out of his Apple ID… because of a gift card
  • Casey’s tangentially-related rant
• Netflix to acquire Warner Brothers
  • Dominic Preston at The Verge
  • From the past: Blockbuster’s reaction to Netflix
    • Marc Randolph’s comment
  • Paramount launches hostile $108B bid
    • Elizabeth Lopatto at The Verge: Larry Ellison’s big dumb gift to his large adult son
    • Gruber’s take
    • As per Brian Stelter, Netflix is prepared
    • More Paramount context from Charles Pulliam-Moore at The Verge
      • Emma Roth at The Verge: CBS News was just taken over by a Substack
      • Elizabeth Lopatto at The Verge: Memo to Bari Weiss Re: CBS News: You’re doomed
• Post-show: Casey asks for programming help
  • StoreKit2
  • UserDefaults
  • NotificationCenter
  • Singleton
  • Publisher
  • @Environment
  • Dependency injection
  • @EnvironmentObject
• Members-only ATP Overtime: The State of TV
  • Verizon FiOS stabs John & Casey
  • CableCARD
  • PCMCIA
  • TiVo
  • Channels
  • HDHomeRun
  • TVEverywhere

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In this special members-only episode, we watch and discuss "WarGames" (1983).

More Apple-executive turnover, and the risks and upsides of leadership change.

• Pre-show: Casey has a giggle about central Virginia snow
• Follow-up:
  • Apple Fitness+ is doing better than the Mac Pro
    • Workout Buddy
    • Previously with Jay Blahnik
  • More adventures with Cloudflare
    • jramskov’s observation
    • TLS Certificate lifetimes
    • Alternatively, GitHub Pages
    • Some thoughts from an anonymous Cloudflare employee
      • Workers
      • Pages
      • R2
      • KV
      • Durable Objects
    • Oops… we broke it
      • Landon’s observation
      • 5 December Outage
        • React.js vulnerability
  • Say my name, Siri!
    • Siri response preferences (via Jonathan Gulbrandsen)
      • Screenshot
    • AirPods and Contacts (via Oren Idan)
    • We’re… uh… sorry. Our bad.
      • Sean Santry
      • Reid Sorenson
  • iOS 26 rollout 📈
    • Underscore on 20 November
    • Underscore on 8 December
  • Intel 🤝 Apple Commentary
    • Tambourine Man
    • David Beck
    • Goffredo Marocchi
      • Previously on ATP
      • Srouji’s comments (timestamp link to 34m26s)
      • Maybe Intel will just do packaging?
    • Maybe iPhone chips too?
  • Gruber is… not a fan… of Alan Dye
    • Dye Was in Tim Cook’s Blind Spot
• Apple’s revolving door keeps spinning
  • An anonymous observation
  • Gurman, 6 December
  • Gurman, 8 December
  • Gurman’s departing executive tracker image
• Post-show:
  • Messages conversation merging
  • A feature request
• Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple Watch & Mac mini are no longer advertised as “carbon neutral”
  • Apple 2030
  • Apple commits to 100% carbon neutrality for supply chain & products by 2030 (21 July 2020)
  • Carbon removal & offsets

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Christmas came early this year.

• Pre-show: Marco has a new toy
• Follow-up:
  • Vision Pro Light Seal sizes decoded
    • Vision Pro Size Help tool
  • JPEG XL lives… in PDF
    • Chromium ticket
    • jxl-rs: JPEG XL in Rust
  • Chapter links in Apple Podcasts
    • Stephen Robles on The Talk Show
    • Apple documentation
    • ATP on Threads
  • Malicious content delivery on Podcasts.app?
    • 404 Media article
• Everybody is leaving Apple
  • John Giannandrea to retire from Apple
    • Amar Subramanya’s first-week experience at Microsoft
  • Alan Dye poached by Meta
    • Jason’s take
• Cloudflare’s 18 November Outage
  • Cloudflare
  • Lets Encrypt
  • Hypercritical
  • Callsheet
• Ask ATP:
  • Why can’t Siri pronounce names correctly? (via Tony West)
    • serra queue sah
    • Siri, what’s my full name
• Post-show:
  • What now, bagel snobs?
    • BagelFest
    • Baltik’s Bagel: People’s Choice award
    • Baltik’s Bagel
    • Coverage from the NY metro area
  • Bullstrap Minimalist Case
• Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple 🤝 Intel?
  • Intel 18A vs. TSMC N2
  • MTr/mm²

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Egg! Egg! Egg!

• Pre-show: Marco bought a new toy
  • ATP Diamond Dogs: Talk Me Out of It II
  • Bryan’s toot
    • pen.tips
    • Paperlike 3
    • Paperlike Pencil Tips
• Follow-up:
  • macOS Tahoe 26.2 β3 seems to fix Electron slowdown (per shamelectron)
  • Gurman says “not so fast, my friend”
  • Gaming in ARM
    • Anti-cheat complications (via Tyler)
    • Windows 11 on ARM (via David Gaw)
  • OpenAI Egg update
    • Interview video
    • Fred T
  • Apple N1 > Broadcom
  • An iPhone camera cluster theory
  • The UK is still trying to make fetch happen get themselves a back door
    • Financial Times
• Apple Fitness+ is “Under Review”
• Fast charging & battery health
  • Juli Clover summary @ MacRumors
• Ask ATP:
  • Now that Marco owns a restaurant, does he tip differently? (via Max Velasco Knott)
  • What do we think about third-party packages? (via Eric Jacobsen)
    • swift-collections
    • swift-async-algorithms
    • CPAN
    • Flow
  • Is organizing /Applications a poor choice? (via Nathan)
  • Are our kids better than we are at video games yet? (via Omri Arbiv)
    • Ultimate Chicken Horse
    • SongPop Party
    • UltraKill
    • Universal Paperclips
    • Cookie Clicker
• Post-show: The saga of Overcast episode images
  • Core Intuition
  • Linode Object Storage
  • CloudFlare R2
• Members-only ATP Overtime: Should we ever be forced to put away our phones? (via Philip McDermott)

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The rumored end of the Mac Pro, the rumored end of Tim Cook's CEO tenure, and the resurrection of matte screens.

• 🗣️ New ATP Member’s Special: ATP Diamond Dogs: Talk Me Out of It II
  • ATP Diamond Dogs: Talk Me Out of It — 16 October 2023
• Follow-up:
  • The origin of “diamond dogs” (via Jared Counts)
    • Wikipedia
  • Matte, glossy, glass, and nanotexture (via Johnny “Decimal” Noble)
    • Paperlike
    • Rock Paper Pencil
  • Steam Machine
    • EuroGamer article about APU/GPU (via DavidSchaub)
  • PlayStation 5 OS is FreeBSD-based (via Jesús Santaigo Narváez)
    • Wikipedia
    • PS Dev Wiki
  • Steam Frame
    • Lenses (via Michael)
    • Spec chart (via James O’Loughlin)
    • Top strap image
    • Steam → Apple Vision Pro using ALVR (via Iain Wallace)
      • Guide on Reddit
  • SteamOS
    • Is not universally supported (via DavidSchaub)
    • Alternatives (via solmnmagus)
      • Bazzite
      • CachyOS
    • Anti-cheat considerations (via Julian Torres)
    • Screw it, I’m installing Linux
  • Steam strategy
    • Is Steam-on-ARM popular?
      • Hardware survey (via Lars Boris)
        • Additional thoughts from Ava
    • Steam has only one person to answer to (via charlesesmith)
  • Single thread performance ranking (via Steven Op de beeck)
  • “High-Res Antiglare” (via Adam Wunn)
• John mourns the recent news
  • GPU issues (via Colin Cornaby)
  • GeekBench Metal scores
    • Mac Pro (2019) + AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT
    • Mac Studio (2025) + M3 Ultra
  • The Case for a True Mac Pro Successor
• Tim Cook to step down as early as next year
  • Tim Cook & Kara Swisher in 2021 (starts at 35:51)
    • As discussed in ATP #425: Hey Billionaire
  • Financial Times, 14 November 2025
  • Gruber’s take
  • Joe Rossignol @ Mac Rumors
    • Apple Corporate Governance Guidelines
• Post-show: Declan discovers “HyperCard”
  • Rage-baiting
• Members-only ATP Overtime: The App Store on the web
  • Dan Moren @ Six Colors
  • MJ Tsai
  • Apple shipped its source maps
    • Svelte
  • See also: Apple Maps on the web
    • Announcement
  • See also: Apple Podcasts on the web
    • Juli Clover @ MacRumors

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Marco seeks input about a dilemma, weighing the pros and cons of tackling a new project.

Apple's new phone… holder, Steam's new hardware, and slightly more evidence that CD-Rs are S-tier.

• Follow-up:
  • John has some new Vision Pro treats
    • Flight Ready
  • In the defense of the CD-R (via Jonathan Goforth)
    • ATP Tier List: Storage Media
  • Auto-generated chapters in Apple podcasts
    • We’re dummies: ATP has a [chapter-free] bootleg
    • Some more technical details (via Stephen Robles)
      • Subscriber audio chapters are a mess
  • New MacBook Pro design is for M6 Pro & Max only?
    • Mark Gurman’s coverage
    • MD101
  • Tahoe & Electron app fixes
    • Discord is fixed (via Dayton Lowell)
    • Microsoft Teams Classic is likely to never get fixed (via Adam Wunn)
  • macOS Emoji Picker
    • ⌃ ⌘ Space
    • Rocket
  • Pogo-stick robot
    • Boston Dynamics
  • A butt-dialing theory from Trey Carpenter
• iPhone Pocket
  • Paul’s analogy
  • Gruber’s post
• iPod Socks
  • On eBay
• New Steam Hardware
  • Initial coverage
    • Image of the new devices
    • Announcement video
    • Digital Foundry’s coverage
    • Dave2D’s coverage
  • Steam Controller
    • TMR not Hall Effect
    • Understanding the difference
  • Steam Machine
    • Images on The Verge
  • Steam Frame
    • More photos
• Post-show: Marco goes to Home Depot
• Members-only ATP Overtime: Affinity graphics apps go free, and some people are upset
  • Press release

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• Pre-show: Casey dropped his 17 Pro
• 🗣️ The ATP Holiday Store is back! Order before 9 November! 🗣️
  • T568A & T568B
    • Idea courtesy Adam Brandon
  • Don’t Stop Believin’…
• An aside about podcast chapters and Apple’s recent news
• Follow-up:
  • The current MacBook Pro design is from the M1 (via Ben Mattison)
  • More dashed Mac Pro dreams
    • Apple’s internal chip codename nomenclature
    • Variants
      • P = A_
      • G = A_X / A_Z / M_
      • S = M_ Pro
      • C = M_ Max
      • D = M_ Ultra
      • X = M_ Pro/Max/Ultra
    • Examples
      • A11 = H10P
      • A12X = H11G
      • A14 = H13P
      • M1 = H13G
      • M2 Pro = H14S
    • GPUs use G instead of H
    • More island/chip names from 26.1 RC:
      • Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/MacOSX.platform/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX.sdk/System/Library/Frameworks/Kernel.framework/Versions/A/Headers/arm/cpuid.h
      • Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/MacOSX.platform/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX.sdk/usr/include/mach/machine.h
      • Apple codenames
  • John’s tale of Xcode 26.1 woe
  • John’s un-fixed Electron apps
  • More clipboard history options in macOS 26.1
  • M5 MacBook Pro speed tests
    • MaxTech
• Casey has tried the new Developer Strap
  • Accessibility → Audio & Visual → Balance
• An aside about nanotexture displays
  • Marco’s current iPad paper-texture overlay
• Casey upgraded to Tahoe
  • Funky sidebar icon
• /r/overcast
  • Under the Radar #330: Engaging with Reddit
  • Meltdown in the ProCreate subreddit over a painting of Master Chief
• Post-show: Marco plays with 3D printing
  • Tinkercad
  • Bambu
  • Eric Welander’s video about Gridfinity
  • Toybox
• Members-only ATP Overtime: Joanna Stern tries Neo, the household “robot”
  • WSJ Article (or On Apple News+)
  • QWOP

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Bold MacBook Pro rumors, Liquid Glass gets frosted, whether Tahoe is a safe upgrade yet, and more experiences with the Vision Pro.

• Pre-show: Marco’s airplane neighbors
  • Flighty
• 🗣️ The ATP Holiday Store is back! Order before 9 November! 🗣️
  • T568A & T568B
    • Idea courtesy Adam Brandon
• Follow-up:
  • Vision Pro
    • Mac Virtual Display
      • On Intel it’s only up to 3K 🤭 (via Thomas Cheng)
      • Apple Support
    • Tapping-and-holding × allows for hiding other windows (via Nick Anthony)
    • Vision Pro vs. ski goggles
  • Apple 🤝 Vapor Chambers
    • Would it come to the MacBook Air (via Andy Lang)
    • Coming to the iPad Pro?
  • Apple’s MLS deal
    • …is worldwide; not US-only
    • Apple advertises in Korea (via Jake Lee)
  • John’s Shortcuts bug
    • Calum’s example
    • Fleedar’s example
    • lukens77 on Reddit (via eurozerozero)
    • Is it all Shortcuts-related files?
      • Possible fix from gleeful
        • Overwrite If File Exists
  • Fixing the “iconic plateau” (via Gordon Mcdowell)
  • The Cheesecake Factory does, apparently, make everything fresh
    • ATP Inside: The Restaurant, Season One
    • Cube Rule
• Mac Rumors
  • M6/OLED MacBook Pro?
    • Previously from Mark Gurman
  • Brendan Shanks’ discovery
• 𝓍OS 26 β4 includes Liquid Glass toggle
  • iOS/iPadOS: Settings → Display and Brightness
  • macOS: System Settings → Appearance
  • Example image
  • Lock Screen swipe for camera can now be disabled, too
    • Settings → Camera → Lock Screen Swipe to Open Camera
• Is Tahoe safe yet?
  • The Electron bug
  • Fixes are rolling out
  • Detector app by Tomas Kafka, via Craig Hockenberry
  • Status of popular apps
• Post-show: More of John’s impressions of the Vision Pro
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Finally, we have all taken a trip together to Mount Hood.

• Pre-show: More people have been infected by Goose
• 🗣️ New ATP Members’ Special: ATP Insider: The Restaurant, Season One 🗣️
  • An aside about outerwear
• 🗣️ The ATP Holiday Store is back! Order before 9 November! 🗣️
  • T568A & T568B
    • Idea courtesy Adam Brandon
• Follow-up:
  • Recognition corner
  • Casey begs for help
    • Callsheet List bug (FB17661404) is fixed in 26.1 🎉
    • However, Menu(::primaryAction:) is broken (FB20755661)
  • Some M5 Vision Pro clarifications
    • The M5 does have Memory Integrity Enforcement
  • The M5 MacBook pro without a charger is actually cheaper in most regions
    • EU is €100 cheaper without / €35 with (via Nick Heer)
    • UK is the same though
  • The non-determinism of LLMs (via Heiko Hotz)
    • New chat
    • Mira Murati’s company piece discussing non-determinism
• The M5 Vision Pro
  • Dual Knit Band
  • HDCP
  • Television
  • Theater
  • New Developer Strap (behind Apple Developer paywall)
    • MacRumors coverage
• Post-show: John’s weird Finder animation bug
  • AVIF
• Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple 🤝🏻 F1 in 🇺🇸
  • Previous offerings
  • Apple’s bespoke F1 camera
    • Wired’s coverage
  • Apple’s F1-themed WWDC intro

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The first year of Marco's restaurant: how it all went, what was surprising, how the tech played out, and what's next.

The surprise M5 special!

• Follow-up:
  • Languages in Scotland
  • ATP merch has more benefits (via Christian Heiler)
  • Slide Over fade animation (via Daniel Luz)
  • Marco’s iPhone case survey: Ryan London bare bottom (via Oliver Thomas)
  • /u/LaughingMan11 is Benson Leung (via Deta & Daniel Luz)
  • ZFS and the Drobo dream (via Joe)
    • AnyRAID for ZFS Explained for Dummies
    • Hexos announcement
• An aside for an argument
• Apple M5
• M5 Pro, M5 Max, TSMC’s SoIC
  • Ming-Chi Kuo
  • Chip on Wafter on Surface
  • Integrated Fan-Out Package-on-Package
• M5 MacBook Pro
  
  • MacRumors on the [lack of] power adapter
    • Numerama
• M5 iPad Pro
• M5 Vision Pro
  • The Verge compares refresh rates
  • Sorry, no trade-ins
  • Logitech Muse spatial stylus
• Apple TV+ is now Apple TV
  • F1: The Movie announcement post
  • Eddie Cue on The Town podcast
  • New icon
• Post-show: iPhone setup, take two
  • Skip all the Siri/FaceID/etc things until setup is complete
  • Don’t try to memorize the flashing 6-digit code; choose another way
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  • Jennifer Patterson Tuohy
    • “Temperature” on LLMs
  • Nilay’s take

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Apple's ICEBlock takedown, AirPods Pro 3 comfort improvements, Live Translation tests, iPhone 17 Pro cases, and expanding the Goose fanbase.

• Pre-show: Marco’s “Vacation” results
  • Goose
    • Goose @ Richmond Allianz Ampitheater, 3 October 2025
  • Allianz Ampitheater
  • Chicken Salad Chick
  • Nugs.net
  • ZZQ
  • Suggestions from Casey, in no particular order:
    • Hungersite
    • Give it Time
    • How it Ends
    • Dripfield
• Follow-up:
  • ATP in the wild
    • Original report form Richard Earney
      • Follow-up by Matt Smith
    • Follow-up on Mark Christian’s report by Santiago Hervella
  • AirPods 3
    • Ear Lottery
      • Michael corroborates Marco’s experience
      • …but Franklin Delano Stallone offers hope
      • …and sometimes AirPods 3 are a marked improvement, reports Matthew Schaffer
    • Tony Dehnke does an ANC comparison
    • Live translation results
  • David Schaub’s horror story about filling up your phone
  • Mike Taffet does science on iPhone ↔ iPhone transfers
  • Marco’s USB odyssey
    • Jack Wellborn had a similar experience
    • Syd Polk wonders if it’s a Sequoia thing
    • (Among others) Fabien theorizes its’ an alignment thing
      • Keith Heaton brought receipts
      • Tailgate Tub
    • Active vs. passive Thunderbolt cables
      • OWC
      • Informative Reddit comment by LaughingMan11
  • Synology alternatives
    • Colin McKellar suggests QNAP
    • See also:
      • UGREEN
      • Unraid
      • FreeNAS/TrueNAS
      • …
    • 🎉 …may not be necessary anymore! 🎉
      • Coverage from Guru3D
      • SpaceRex on YouTube
      • Lee Hutchinson at Ars Technica
• More more first impressions
  • Quick AirPods Pro 3 update
  • iPhone case updates
    • Omar Shahine performs surgery on the Nomad back
    • Torras clear case
    • Bullstrap open-bottom leather case
    • Peak Design Everyday Case (Charcoal color has the good fabric)
    • Still to test: Süti PhoneBack in black leather, if it ever ships
  • iOS 16
  • iPadOS 26: Now with slide-over!
• Apple pulls ICEBlock from the App Store
  • Previously, in Hong Kong
    • Tim’s explanation
    • Response letter
  • Reuters’ take
  • MJ Tsai
  • Gurman on Apple succession
• Post-show: Pour one a Sprite out for a real one TiVo
  • Channels
  • AOL dialup service ends
• Members-only ATP Overtime: The Meta Ray-Ban Display, and Apple’s response
  • The Verge
  • Gurman: Apple pivots

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Cases and bumpy starts with our new iPhones, our reviews of the AirPods Pro 3, and a baffling USB odyssey.

• Pre-show: Eh, that’ll keep…
  • M5 iPad Pro
  • FCC leaks
• 🗣️ St. Jude time is almost done! 🗣️
  • Supporting Action for Emergency Response
  • Lebanon case study
  • Global crisis repsonse blueprint
• 🗣️ New ATP Member’s Special: ATP Dev: Computer Science Curriculum
• Follow-up:
  • ATP in the wild (via Mark Christian & Richard Earney)
  • iOS 26.0.1 allegedly fixes N1 Wi-Fi/BT issues
    • CarlinKit wireless CarPlay dongle
  • What does iCloud back up? (via Dayton Lovell)
  • iCloud for Messages
    • A ringing endorsement from Nick
    • A potential fix for ∞ GIFs (via Nathan)
  • iPhone Transfers
    • Why not pre-populate them, Kindle-style? (via Winnie Lewis)
    • TestFlight is… better now? (via Daniel Nelson)
    • Some thoughts from Nick
  • Apple’s onboarding enshittification (via Imthaz)
  • Thought to text & AlterEgo
    • Firefox (1982)
    • Prior MIT project (via Hannes)
    • CJ’s thoughts
      • Preview video
      • EMG
      • EEG
• More first impressions
  • TechWoven cases
  • Tina’s Bullstrap case
  • Bullstrap wallet
  • Stephen Robles leather iPhone case review
  • Nomad Magnetic leather back
    • Marco’s video of the flaw
  • iPhone 17
  • AirPods Pro 3
    • Erin’s Audio Corner
    • The Headphone Show
    • The Harman Curve
• Ask ATP:
  • How do we really know if something is encrypted? (via Joshua Wold)
  • What is the point of neural engine cores, anyway? (via Tom Cole)
    • SIMD
    • Evaluating the Apple Silicon M-Series SoCs for HPC Performance & Efficiency
    • AMX Units
    • Neural Engine
  • Does filling a phone SSD slaughter performance? (via Sean Harding)
• Post-show: Marco’s USB odyssey
  • CalDigit Thunderbolt Element 4
  • BLE caberQu
• Members-only ATP Overtime: NAS Noodling
  • Synology [sorta] says third-party drives will be supported in the future
    • Synology Solution Day 2025 teaser video
  • Ubiquiti’s new NAS units
    • UNAS 2
    • UNAS 4

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How computer science and computer engineering were taught to us in college, what's different today, and the evolving role it plays in preparing students (or not) for practical industry work.

iPhone Air vs. iPhone 17 Pro in our daily lives… if Casey's transfer ever finishes.

• Marco’s AppleCare “Express” Replacement
• 🗣️ It’s St. Jude time again! 🗣️
  • The Marco Offset
  • Podcastathon 2025
• Follow-up:
  • Auburn’s colors are UVA’s colors (via Tony Scida)
  • You don’t need the trick new Apple charger to charge an iPhone 17 at full speed
  • iPhone Air
    • Why people are buying the iPhone Air / 15” MacBook Air
    • Bending the iPhone Air
      • Apple (via Tom’s Guide)
        • Direct video link
      • JerryRigEverything (timestamp link to 6m35s)
        • Same video, different timestamp (7m37s)
    • Battery life
      • Mr. Whose the Boss
      • The Tech Chap
      • Tom’s Guide
    • Speaker (via Steve Troughton-Smith)
    • Thermals
      • MaxTech
    • iFixIt Teardown
    • Thickness
      • Visual comparison of thickness (via Ludwig Schubert)
      • Thin iPhone future? (via Ian)
  • iPhone 17 Pro
    • Teardowns
      • REWA Technology
        • All the screws
        • 17 vs. 16
        • 17 Pro internals
        • Vapor chamber
        • Logic boards
      • Vapor chambers explained
      • Max Tech
    • Scratches on the back?
      • More images from MacRumors
      • And from Watson
      • JerryRigEverything
  • iPhone sales
    • The Information (MacRumors summary)
• iPhone setup advice
  • Casey’s tale of woe (see also Upgrade #582: First Chance to Make One Impression)
• First impressions: iPhone 17 Pro
  • Scratchability
  • Telephoto camera
    • iPhone 16 Pro 5× vs. iPhone 17 Pro 8×
• Post-show:
  • HP M553
  • HP M554
• Members-only ATP Overtime: Anthropic’s $1.5B book piracy settlement
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  • Previously, on ATP #656: Anthropic asked for $1.5B/yr from Apple
  • The Verge: Settlement paused, 9 September
  • Ars Technica, 9 September

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An iconic plateau of follow-up.

• Marco 0️⃣ → 1️⃣
• 🗣️ It’s St. Jude time again! 🗣️
  • Podcastathon 2025: Friday, noon → midnight EDT
• Stephen Hackett said the foldable will be the “iPhone Ultra”
• μm is a “micron”
• The iPhone Air battery pack does have a USB-C port after all
• iPhone 17 Pro requires a new adapter to charge at full speed
  • Apple 40W Dynamic Power Adapter
  • Anker Nano 45W charger
• A19 vs. A19 Pro
• A19 Pro benchmarks
• The N1 is in every new iPhone
• The whole of the iPhone Air is in the camera plateau
  • Large image
• Casey’s memory problems corner
  • ATP #655 (Overcast timestamp link)
• The mmWave antenna window is back
  • Background
• Logo placement on Apple’s cases
  • Clear Case with MagSafe
  • TechWoven Case with MagSafe
• Some funny renders from iPhone case makers
• Theories about the iPhone 17 Pro colors
  • Every masterpiece has its cheap copy
  • Luke Skywalker
  • University of Virginia
  • Denver Broncos
  • Auburn University
    • 2021 impactful boosters
• iPhone Air
  • Will it bend?
    • Joz (& Ternus) with an incredible [lack of] flex
  • 17 was a last-second decision? (via Sam Henri Gold)
  • Max Tech’s discoveries
    • The Air does not have stereo speakers
    • The Dynamic Island is lower than on other phones
    • The USB-C port is not vertically centered
      • Image
    • No Cinematic Mode video, including the selfie camera
    • The new selfie camera is actually a 24MP sensor
  • No LiDAR scanner
  • Air & 17 non-Pro are limited to USB 2
    • USB 2.0
• Every new iPhone screen has the same specifications, save size/resolution
  • Apple iPhone comparison page
• iPhones 17 can now toggle screen flickering off
  • Pulse-width modulation
  • 9to5Mac’s coverage
  • PWM sensitive subreddit
• Apple Watch
  • Satellite data requires a cellular plan
  • Jason & Greg Pierce agree
  • Is “24-hour” battery claim because of a change in measurement?
  • Underscore’s observations about the Ultra
    • Apple Watch battery
• AirPods
  • Ear shapes (via Tirial)
  • About that “2×” noise reduction
    • AirPods product page
  • The new AirPods Pro case is not smaller
  • “New generation of Ultra Wideband technology” is the U2 chip
  • Live translation is on-device (not in ☁️)
  • Live translation is blocked for EU users with EU Apple Accounts
    • Apple feature availability
• Safari on iOS 26’s compact toolbar
• Tahoe Toolbars (via Zhenyi Tan) * Frosting download link * Frosting test page
• Post-show: John’s red dot
• Members-only ATP Overtime: Alterego and “thought to text” translation
  • How artificial intelligence gave a paralyzed woman her voice back
    • A high-performance neuroprosthesis for speech decoding and avatar control
  • Meet the Little Brain Region that Helps You Say What’s on Your Mind
    • Speech sequencing in the human precentral gyrus
  • Scientists develop interface that “reads” thoughts from speech-impaired patients
  • Alterego

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The iPhone event! Reactions and analysis of the iPhone 17, 17 Pro, and Air; the Apple Watch Series 11, SE 3, and Ultra 3; and the AirPods Pro 3.

• 🗣️ It’s St. Jude time again! 🗣️
  • The Marco Offset
• iPhone event
  • AirPods Pro 3
  • Apple Watch Series 11
    • No new System-in-Package?
    • Whoop Band
  • Apple Watch SE 3
  • Apple Watch Ultra 3
    • LTPO
    • Satellite can-kicking continues
  • iPhone 17
    • Memory Integrity Enforcement
  • iPhone Air
    • iPhone Air MagSafe Battery 💔
  • iPhone 17 Pro & Pro Max
  • Software ship dates
• Post-show:
  • Apple trade-in
  • ✨ Tina’s dream has come true! ✨
• Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple’s competing implementations for the new Siri
  • Gurman, 13 August
  • Gurman, 22 August
  • Gurman, 3 September

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The iPhone 16 Pro's exit interview, what we're expecting to see next week in the iPhone 17 lineup, and a parade of fun euphemisms.

• Pre-Show: Trouble in Razer paradise
• 🗣️ It’s St. Jude time again! 🗣️
  • The Marco Offset
• Follow-up:
  • Casey has thoughts about the compact iOS 26 controls in Safari
    • Settings → Apps → Safari
  • Apple device advice for those that are athletically engaged
    • Place your phone face-down (via. A. O.)
    • Sleep focus is an option (via A. M.)
    • So is Theater Mode and, if taps are an issue, water lock (via Ryan)
    • How to stop Siri from randomly activating all the damn time by D. Griffin Jones
    • Fun fact: you can add it to the Health app! (via Niv Ben-Porath)
      • …but it won’t affect your rings
    • A truly hilarious story from Anonymous
  • Developing “product sense” (via Joseph Kibe)
    • Productive Tensions by Christopher B. Bingham & Rory M. McDonald
• iPhone 16 exit interview
  • Peltier device
  • Obscura
  • Halide
• iPhone event preview
  • Crossbody strap
  • Apple Natural Titanium Milanese Loop (Marco’s summer watch band)
• Post-show: Smaller e-ink note-taking tablets
  • reMarkable Paper Pro Move
    • The Verge’s coverage
    • Ars Technica’s coverage
  • Supernote Nomad
  • iFLYTEK AINOTE Air 2
  • Viwoods AiPaper Mini
• Members-only ATP Overtime: US government buys 10% of Intel
  • Ars Technica
  • New York Times
  • The Verge
  • Intel self-announces all the red flags

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The final iOS 26 developer push, the upcoming iPhone event, and exciting news about… iPhone-case materials!

• Pre-Show: Casey and Marco are sad
  • Ben Rice McCarthy
  • Under the Radar
• Follow-up:
  • 🗣️ It’s St. Jude time again! 🗣️
    • The Marco Offset
  • Anonymous crushes the dreams of Marco and Casey about cellular MacBooks
  • Another Anonymous shares a bit too much information about accidental Siri activations 😆
  • 🤬 John’s AppleCare One update 🤬
  • Help with Trackpad dragging
    • System Settings → Accessibility → Pointer Control → Trackpad Options… → Dragging Style → Three Finger Drag
      • Screenshot
    • …or Drag Lock
  • Masimo comes for [more] blood
  • UK drops utterly bananas backdoor legislation
  • Studio Display with A19
    • Daniel Luz points out makes a funny comparison to Macs
    • Fabian Häusler theorizes it’s about binning
  • Apple’s Hide my Email feature
    • An unexpected wrinkle Timothy Martin points out
    • Anecdote from David Beck
• Apple Event: 9 September 1PM OTTZ
  • Interactive logo
    • Still image for posterity
  • Reverse-engineering by sam henri gold
• “TechWoven” and “Liquid Silicone” cases leaked
  • Maijin Bu on TechWoven
  • …and on Liquid Silicone (and again)
• Apple will simplify the Camera Control button
• Ask ATP:
  • What’s the ∆ between snapshots and backups? (via Phil Hirst)
    • Hyperspace
  • Why is Finder slow to delete files? (via Dan)
  • How will Apple reconcile AI and carbon neutrality? (via Sam Hunt)
• Post-show: Some venting about politics and 𝓍26.
  • Jeff Atwood’s post
  • John’s reply
  • There’s nothing Republicans won’t ruin
• Members-only ATP Overtime: Rumored Apple roadmap
  • Apple readies first upgrade to its struggling Vision Pro headset

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Marco thought the bunnies were real.

• Pre-Show: AI slop vs. not… so… AI… slop
  • AITAH
• Follow-up:
  • Casey spends 24 hours with iOS 26 on his carry phone
    • John’s dancing controls
  • ☝️ Well, actually ☝️, myriad of is okay (via Jason Eccles)
    • Merriam-Webster’s take
  • Are size classes similar to today’s design changes? (via Bryan Guffey)
    • Auto Layout
  • John’s HomePod has risen from the dead!
    • Nic’s Fix
    • Watch John’s actual repair happen
  • 🍿 John would like to air some AppleCare One grievances 🍿
    • John’s tantrum
    • AppleCare One Terms & Conditions
• Blood oxygen with Apple Watch [sorta] returns to the US
  • Gruber’s take
  • Victoria Song at The Verge
• 😳🥳 M5 MacBook Pro with cellular is coming‽ 🎉😳
• A19 Pro in Studio Display 2?
  • Previously, in low-cost MacBook rumors: A18 Pro
• Your Mac game is probably rendering blurry
  • CGDisplayCopyAllDisplayModes()
  • FB13375033
• Ask ATP:
  • Should the name “Siri” be retired? (via Aaron Bushnell)
  • Did Vehicle Motion Cues help John? (via Roly C.)
  • How do we click our trackpads? (via Eli)
• Post-show: Oh yeah! 🗣️ New ATP Members special: ATP Insider: Vacations 🗣️
• Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple’s research into using LLMs to make UIs
  • Apple trained a LLM to teach itself good SwiftUI
  • Research paper
  • Stephen Robles’ video

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What we consider a vacation, the types of vacations we enjoy, and our roles in our families when on vacation.

Apple’s latest design updates, developing product sense, AppleCare One friction, and endangered mice.

• Pre-Show: Marco and Casey’s no-good, very bad days.
• Follow-up:
  • Casey didn’t read the fine print on Express Replacement 🤦🏻‍♂️
    • Short Pump
  • John cycled his mouse again
  • AppleCare One
    • Moving a device on a payment plan (via “Clark Griswold” and Anonymous)
    • Tina’s iPhone
    • Tina’s Mac Studio
  • Tahoe beta 5: checkbox contrast improves
  • iOS 26 beta 6 Liquid glass changes
  • Smart TV interfaces over time
    • “Shortcut”
    • New Magic Remote
  • Running your own mail server
    • How does iCloud-on-your-domain work? (via potato.zip)
    • Hide my Email (via Peter Puleio)
    • Jason Diller thinks it’s not so bad
  • Post-quantum cryptography
    • Harvest now, decrypt later (via Lisa Ugray)
    • Since iOS 17.4 for iMessage (via Saul Sutherland)
      • Apple Security Research blog post
    • Compelled adoption (via Brian Jarvis)
    • Chrome adopted it in 2024 (via sayrer)
      • 2024: State of post-quantum internet
      • 2025: Update
• John wages war against icons
  • Adopting Liquid Glass: App Icons
  • WWDC 2025 #361: Create Icons with Icon Composer
  • John’s Mastodon thread
    • Václav Slavík’s solution
    • FB19437407
    • FB19497128
    • FB17892659
  • There’s likely to be a lot more of this
• Ask ATP:
  • Is Liquid Glass on macOS a subtle move toward touchscreen Macs? (via Daniel Liu)
  • How does one build a “good product sense”? (via Ian Anderson)
    • Inspired by Marty Cagan
  • How does one effectively de-duplicate photos using Photos.app? (via Keith Heaton)
• Post-show: Marco’s air-conditioning “update”
• Members-only ATP Overtime: AI voice control as a threat to Apple’s platforms
  • Apple’s Upcoming AI Voice Control will Change how People Use iPhones

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